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Leveling guidesEvery class from 1 to 60: spec, talents, route and gear.
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Dungeons by levelEvery dungeon by level, with bosses, loot and quests.
Dungeon quest tourEvery dungeon quest to pick up before you go in, by faction and level.
RaidsEvery Forever raid, its opening date and the countdown to raid night.
New in Forever
Hall of Thanes13–18
Ruins of Lordaeron15–20
Excavation Site: Wetlands24–29
City of Dalaran28–33
The Drowned City35–40
Krol'dok Stronghold40–45
Alcaz Prison48–53
Blackmaw Hold55–60
Shaper's Terrace58–60
Raids
Barrow DeepsLevel 60 · 10 players · opens Dec 9
Hyjal SummitLevel 60 · 20 players · opens Dec 9
Onyxia's LairLevel 60 · 40 players · opens Dec 9
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RecipesEvery recipe with its reagents, skill and where to learn it.
Profession plannerPlan a crafting route and its shopping list.
CampingCampfires and every camp object: buffs, reagents and blueprints.
Merchant's FavorFill crates for Favor at the trade camps, and what it buys.
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World mapZoomable map with quests, rares, flight paths and dungeon entrances.
ZonesEvery zone with its level range, quests, rares and services.
QuestsFind any quest: who gives it, where to go and what it rewards.
RaresEvery rare elite with its spawn points, its loot and tips for tracking it down.
Hunter petsEvery beast to tame by zone and level, its attack speed and what it teaches.
Library booksEvery library book with maps and a checklist, and the necklace, ring and bow they earn.
CollectionsWhere to transmog and what it costs, cosmetic looks, mounts and toys with how to get each.
Reputation rewardsSelected Nightclaw and goblin-town rewards, their required standings and listed sellers.
Travel plannerPlan journeys using recorded flight paths, ships and local transfers, with faction and learned-point filters.
- World overview
ItemsEvery item and where it comes from: drops, quests, vendors, recipes.
SpellsEvery class spell and rank by the level you train it, with the cost.
NPCsFind the trainer, vendor or innkeeper you need, with coordinates.
QuestsFind any quest: who gives it, where to go and what it rewards.
RecipesEvery recipe with its reagents, skill and where to learn it.
Search everythingSearch every guide, item, spell, NPC and quest.
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Talent calculatorPlan a build and its leveling order, then share it.
Gear plannerEquip, compare and save gear sets slot by slot.
Consumables finderFind food, potions and other supplies by level, role and effect, with ways to get them.
Personal plansKeep character profiles, combine acquisition goals and prepare a session checklist.
Group assignmentsPrepare a roster, assign responsibilities and share a dungeon or raid board.
BiS listsBest gear for each class and spec, slot by slot.
Legacy plannerPlan your 16 Legacy points, tick the 65 challenges and see your bear rewards.
Profession plannerPlan a crafting route and its shopping list.
Downrank calculatorCompare heal and damage ranks by mana efficiency.
Rotation trainerPractise your spec's level-60 rotation on a target dummy.
Race & class explorerEvery race and class pairing in one grid, with each race's racials.
Tier listsLaunch tier lists for every spec, plus a maker to rank your own.
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Latest newsThe launch countdown, the latest balance changes and what Blizzard said.
DiscoveriesNewly recorded game data, added details and corrections.
Hidden itemsNew gear whose stats stay hidden until someone loots it, newest reveals first.
Patch notesEvery update, with the buffs, nerfs and talent moves for your class.
Buffs and nerfsWhich classes and races came out ahead across every update before launch.
Blue trackerEvery Blizzard staff post about Forever, newest first.
Classic vs ForeverEvery talent and spell Forever added, changed, moved or removed, class by class.
Launch & server statusLaunch times by region, rulesets, what opens when, known issues and login errors.

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October 16 update

Patch notes

October 16 update

The October 16 update of WoW Forever.

Oct 16, 2026

Its talent and spell changes are part of the Classic vs Forever comparison.

← October 16 hotfix Every update October 18 hotfix →

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